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.... is so Boring

Golf
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19%
Cricket
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14%
Football with no english teams
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5%
Formula One
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13%
Horse Racing
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8%
Bowls
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13%
Snooker
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10%
American Football
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By Adam
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Tennis started today! Anybody going to be watching it?
By Tom Holt
#181662
no. bring back neighbours.
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By Console
#181664
No, get rid of the tennis and neighbours :!:
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By Sidders
#181671
Or... not.

I thought yesterday was pretty funny BTW. A Jordan on the podium, not seen that for a few years. I felt a bit sorry for the driver though, as it must have felt fake given the consequences. Wish it had of been that Indian fella.
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By Wyatt
#181674
It was more entertaining than the usual
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By DemonHorse
#181678
wasn't the actual race I had a problem with (well, Ferrari DID win :P), it was the stupid situation that meant 14 cars pulled out that annoyed me.
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By Wyatt
#181692
The background music the BBC use on Wimbledon is the same music that Sky use on their Sky Cricket coverage.

Interesting isnt it.
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By Sidders
#181693
Wyatt wrote:Interesting isnt it.

No.
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By MK Chris
#181695
Sidla wrote:A Jordan on the podium, not seen that for a few years.

Not sure if it's happened since, cos I rarely pay attention now but Damon Hill got their first win in Spa in 1998 - and Ralf was second for a Jordan 1-2 - but like I say I dare say they've had podiums since then...
Last edited by MK Chris on Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By Wyatt
#181696
I think the last time was Giancarlo Fisichella when he won in 2003.
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By Sidders
#181744
Pity Nablo ain't still he, he'd be able to tell us. Jordan were quite good at one time.
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By DemonHorse
#181788
they were definately on the up, but I think it started to slide when Damon Hill retired, and now look, struggling against Minardi.
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By Sidders
#181823
I dunno why Minardi bother.
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By DemonHorse
#181827
passion for the sport.... what gets me is how paul stoddart keeps landing enough funding to run the team year by year.
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By DemonHorse
#183858
ah another yawn fest in France where Alonso never even got bothered by Raikkonen or anyone else... a real shame after some great races in Monaco, Nurburgring and Montreal... No real action to speak of down the field either, which was at least there in those early-season dominances by renault and mclaren.

I hope next week's British GP is a good one this year.
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By Sidders
#183865
I fell asleep today. I stick by my insistance that it will make the season more exciting as a whole, now that we have 3 possible contenders for the title.
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By DemonHorse
#183871
Yeah that I agree with, one good thing to come out of the Indianapolis race that put an extra driver back into the running.
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By DemonHorse
#184804
So any bets for Silverstone? I like that Jensen is in 2nd on the Grid, but somehow I doubt that will be converted into a win or second place. Also what is Raikkonen doing? thats 2 races in a row he's blown an engine in practise now, no wonder he had all that speed last time out, he's obviously not even attempting to conserve his engine. Talk about unfair advantage if he gets a fresh engine every race due to an 'accident'.
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By Wyatt
#185137
I see the BBC are showing yet more boring golf.
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By Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog
#185139
nah this is the non-boring stuff this week.
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By DC
#185152
American football is gay. All they are is a bunch of Johnny Wilkinson wannabees, but they are too scared to take off the matresses...
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By Sidders
#185272
The British Grand Prix was good. Not normally a fan of Silverstone, but it was funny watching Shumacher getting his ass whooped.
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By DemonHorse
#185287
even though the Fuhrer of MotorRacing did get beat, there were actually changes of lead, overtaking, and..... MONTOYA firmly whupping Kimi 'overrated teammate' Raikkonen once again, I totally agree it was a good race, one of my top3 of an inconsistent season so far.


Also I've just read about the 2 suggested new Qualifying Formats one of which may be used in 2006;

Formula1.com wrote:Proposal 1:
- 60-minute session, split into two 25-minute ‘halves’ with a 10-minute break.
- drivers may run as many laps as they wish, but must set a time in each half.
- each driver’s best times from the first half is added to his best time from the second half to produce a final time to determine the grid.
- no fuel restrictions - cars may refuel during and after the session.

Formula1.com wrote:Proposal 2:
- 60-minute session.
- after 15 minutes, the five slowest cars must retire from the session and will qualify 16th to 20th on the grid.
- after a further 15 minutes, the five cars slowest during that period (times cannot be carried over from the first 15 minutes) must also retire from the session. They will qualify 11th to 15th on the grid.
- for the final 30 minutes the remaining 10 cars will compete for first to tenth place on the grid, based on the best times set in that period (times cannot be carried over from the first 30 minutes).
- drivers may run as many laps as they wish in each period.
- no fuel restrictions - cars may refuel during and after the session.


I prefer number 2, there was a third option to keep this year's single lap qualifying, but I don't think that will get many votes.
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By Uglybob
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Ofcom broadcast bulletin 39
18 July 2005
In Breach
Formula 1 racing – San Marino Grand Prix
ITV1, 24 April 2005, 12:00

126 viewers complained about various aspects of ITV’s coverage of this event and inparticular the advertising break pattern.
The main complaint concerned the placement and length of the final break in the race. The break (lasting 2 minutes 30 seconds) occurred just as the race, by then a close contest between Alonso and Schumacher, was entering its closing stage and finished just before the final lap. The complainants argued that the location of the break and its duration were unacceptable, depriving viewers of live coverage of a vital part of the race and destroying the tension that had built up during the event.
They suggested that the break could (and should) have been placed elsewhere, either within the race or preferably in pre/post race sections of the programme. Many also objected to the perceived differences between coverage of football and F1 in placement and frequency of breaks – likening the positioning of the final race break in this instance to cutting to advertising during a penalty shoot out.
They also complained about other aspects of the coverage and the pattern of advertising breaks. A number criticised the fact that a further break (also of 2 minutes 30 seconds) was taken very shortly after the finish of the race, saying that this simply compounded their impression that the advertising was taking precedence over programme integrity/quality. Others argued that a replay of the ‘missing’ three or so
laps after the race was inadequate compensation for loss of live coverage at a crucial stage and also led to shortened coverage of the press conference, missing the appearance of the British driver Jensen Button. A number asked that the coverage be handed back to the BBC.
We wrote to the broadcaster querying how the coverage complied with its Rules on the Amount and Scheduling of Advertising and in particular Section 6.7(b), dealing with placement of breaks in sports coverage. This rule states that in live coverage of long continuous sporting events, breaks may be taken at points where the focus of coverage shifts from one point to another of the event.


Response
ITV accepted that the final break in the race had been in breach of RASA Section 6.7, having been taken at an inappropriate time. It assured us that it understood the requirements of this rule and took very seriously the need to ensure that the quality of the viewing experience was maintained at the highest standards.
It outlined the steps normally taken to ensure that breaks were taken at appropriate times during the race. The production team were in continual liaison with the teams’ pit crews to determine when drivers were to be called in for pit stops or other planned actions. This communication helped to ensure that breaks were not taken at crucial moments in a race. ITV argued that the San Marino Grand Prix had had an exceptional ending where, for the last 15 minutes, Michael Schumacher was vying to
overtake Fernando Alonso. The production team would normally wait for the outcome of the situation to avoid being in a break at the crucial moment. As the race progressed, the point at which the last race break would normally be taken passed and a judgement call was required. To take a break before the situation was resolved could have resulted in missing the action. With time running out, the decision was eventually made to take the break. In retrospect the break should have been taken
earlier but at the time it had been a difficult call to make.
ITV said that the analogy suggested by viewers between football & motor-racing comparison did not stand in terms of how breaks interrupted the Formula 1 coverage.
The focus during a football match lay with the ball which was the same for the actual spectators at a match. In motor racing, spectators only saw brief glimpses of the action from static positions, whereas the television coverage shows many points of action and follows many different focus points showing, where possible, the most interesting and exciting action. This meant that coverage was switched from one action point to another and any exciting action not seen by viewers, whether due to the taking of a commercial break or from events of interest occurring at the same
time, were always replayed as soon as practical.
The break taken shortly after a race finished was always taken after the last ‘points scoring’ car crossed the finish line but before the drivers got to the podium. The apparent issue in this case had stemmed from the previous break being taken very near the end of the race.
The replay of the last 3 laps had been required to provide viewers with the best coverage possible; the replay of events was an essential part of Formula 1 coverage where action has been missed for whatever reason. On this particular occasion this did reduce the time available for the press conference and post race analysis leaving no time to show the Jensen Button interview.
ITV also added that it undertook extensive research at the start of its coverage of Formula 1 and this had been the established break pattern for the last eight years based on the audience feedback.


Decision
We acknowledge the points made by ITV about its coverage of Formula 1 racing and recognise the problems it had faced in finding an appropriate point for the final race break due to the way the race had developed. We agree that the final race break was in breach of the Rules on the Amount and Scheduling of Advertising, having been taken during an ongoing focus on the battle between the lead drivers, where no natural break point had been present.
The output breached Section 6.7(b) (natural breaks in sports programming) of the Rules on Amount and Scheduling of Advertising
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By DemonHorse
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Uglybob wrote:ITV argued that the San Marino Grand Prix had had an exceptional ending where, for the last 15 minutes, Michael Schumacher was vying to overtake Fernando Alonso.


so... that means they'd put a break 3 laps from the end of any race?... that's f**kin stupid, like they can't possibly wait another 3 minutes and just put it at the end. :roll:
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