[Console]

Ah, but the police officer would need to take a picture that includes both the speedometer as well as the vehicle in question to even be close to evidence, and it would have to be a pretty good camera to capture do that, which is unlikely with a mobile phone.

[Betti911]

A person prosecuted for exceeding the speed limit cannot be convicted on the evidence of a single person who states that in his opinion the person was driving in excess of the speed limit.

You sure?

So if a patrol car is following me with no camera inside and is only judging me speed by his speedometre (not a traffic car so his speedometre is not calibrated) I could do 100mph in a 30zone, no other witnesses, they wouldn't be able to convict me?

Generally speaking there always needs to be 2 pieces of evidence to convict someone of any offence (in this case the cops word on the fact that sidla was speeding and the speeding device). Esp with speeding there must be some kind of measurement taken of the speed. Thats why police cars saying god branch are generally no threat for speeders as they usually don't carry speeding devices.

Most policemen that I know don't pull people over for speeding anyways unless its been a very very quiet night.

[Quincy]

i reckon the copper thought it was none other than world famous global dj dave pearce behind the wheel and thought if he pulled him over he would get a nice bribe

[Betti911]

Did the policeman use any device to record the speed? That would be competant in court.

I don't know. I wouldn't expect so, apart from his own speedometer. How do I know for sure?.

If you didn't see at the time thats something your lawyer can find out later

Do you dispute that you were doing that speed?

Well, I probably was doing that speed, but if I'm advised against admitting that, then I can do. I didn't deny it when the policeman stopped me..[/quote]

The policeman will have written down your reply to caution and charge. Guess if you didn't admit it it would be easier for you to plead not guilty. Again its something you'll have to discuss with your lawyer

The policeman could have been using a VASCAR device inside his cop car which would coroberate his case?

Again, how do I know this?

I don't expect he'll be able to do me for dangerous driving as there was nobody else on the road and no pedestrians, so there was not really any danger.[/quote]

Mmmmm not quite sure about that. Usually you'll be charged with dangerous driving and a less serious charge (in Scotland) anyway and if you plead guilty at 1st opp then they will accept your plea. Again you'll have to speak to your solicitor

[Mafro]

i reckon the copper thought it was none other than world famous global dj dave pearce behind the wheel and thought if he pulled him over he would get a nice bribe

Only if he was wearing his legendary baseball cap, mind.

[Sidders]

You're not helping, you 2.

[Mafro]

The wallpaper alone is an arrestable offence.

[Sidders]

I don't have wallpaper anymore.

[kendra k]

i miss that picture.

[Walter Sobchak]

A person prosecuted for exceeding the speed limit cannot be convicted on the evidence of a single person who states that in his opinion the person was driving in excess of the speed limit.

You sure?

So if a patrol car is following me with no camera inside and is only judging me speed by his speedometre (not a traffic car so his speedometre is not calibrated) I could do 100mph in a 30zone, no other witnesses, they wouldn't be able to convict me?

My mate has recently been charged for dangerous driving, phoned me for advice, I told him he was a prize pillock.

He was "doing about 90" in a 40mph limit, just coming out of a built up area, saw a deer and slammed on his brakes, no abs, spun the car, and came to rest facing the wrong way "with a bloody copper sat there lights flashing".
But there is a point.... He was shaken up and the local bobby, in his patrol car - alone, called in a nearby traffic car to assist, whilst the 'bobby' made the road safe, and helped my mate, the traffic cars arrived (x2) and one of the traffic cops arrested him. My mate says the traffic cop said to him that the 'bobby' had told them the speed that he was doing, then he asked my mate what that speed was, "absolutely no idea" my mate said, the traffic cop asked him 3 times, in the end he charged him for dangerous driving, saying "Think yourself lucky I wasn't behind you, as I would have been able to prove beyond doubt your speed!"

What if he took a sneaky snap on his phone?

Any device that is used as evidence in the majority of events has to be calibrated, whether it a vascar in-car camera, a gatso - roadside camera, or pretty much any other device, even if you've got noisy neighbours and record the noise, it's highly unlikely the recording will be used unless its provided, calibrated and set-up by the local authority.

And anyhoo, even a copper can get done for using a mobile phone while driving

[Sidders]

That doesn't really help, as he was behind me...

[Walter Sobchak]

Maybe i didn't explain it properly, but the patrol car was behind him, although I presume he was some distance away.
Have you heard any more? or got any advice?

[Sidders]

Actually, come to think of it, I think he did ask me what speed I was doing, to which I probably replied that I didn't know.

Not heard any more yet, but the cop said it could be up to 3 weeks before I do.

[Gigglyboots]

I don't think that it really matters if there was one person around or it was crowded..dangerous driving is dangerous regardless of whos around.

[Sidders]

Yeah, but if there was no witnesses then it's his word against mine.

[Quincy]

you might as well go straight to prison now

[Sidders]

Do not pass go. Do not collect £200.

[Quincy]

you can be the top hat i will be the iron. MAYFAIR WITH 2 HOTELS UNLUCKY SUCKER!!!

[Mafro]

"Innocent till proven guilty" remember.

[Sidders]

You can't have 2 hotels.

[DemonHorse]

And anyhoo, even a copper can get done for using a mobile phone while driving

They get let off for speeding though....

[Walter Sobchak]

One problem with posting on the internet, sarcasm doesn't always show up

[Sidders]

I've still not heard anything from the CPS. Am I going to now?

[Console]

One problem with posting on the internet, sarcasm doesn't always show up

There's always the sarcasm tags. [sarcasm]Duh?[/sarcasm]

[Walter Sobchak]

Personally I don't think you will, but it hasn't been 3 weeks yet, which is the normal response time (so i believe), so more waiting I'm afraid, or you could give your Citizens Advice Bureau a ring.

[sarcasm]Thanks Console[/sarcasm]