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By MunroeForbes
#237039
fish heads wrote:Maybe when people like us have had to endure such things slavery and being gassed by the Nazis then we can whine on about what discrimination really is rather than confusing it with inconvinience


So are we punishing our own people and promoting inequality to apologise for what our ancestors did?
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By MK Chris
#237041
Furious wrote:Ok, so were all European then. Is tha twhat youre saying?

Yes.
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By fish heads
#237053
MunroeForbes wrote:
fish heads wrote:Maybe when people like us have had to endure such things slavery and being gassed by the Nazis then we can whine on about what discrimination really is rather than confusing it with inconvinience


So are we punishing our own people and promoting inequality to apologise for what our ancestors did?


No, i'm saying put things in perspective. Being turned down for a job is nothing like the inequality that was around years ago. I'm not saying what's going is 100% correct but in this day and age of uber PC madness everyone is going to scrutinize every job application, every appointment and so on and find something wrong with it no matter how equal you try and make it. Sometimes it's just an inconvinience, so some people of both races should stop harping on about discriminated they are and take a look at things such as the Holocaust if they really want to find out what discrimination is.
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By MK Chris
#237059
The correct procedure as far as job applications, in my opinion, should be that the people making decisions over who gets interviewed should not get to see anyone's names or anything else that can be an indicator of a feature that could cause accusations of prejudice.

Obviously for the interview itself, that is not feasible.

I personally think the adverts for ethnic minorities are in order to encourage more people of those cultures to apply. Some jobs have a stigma attached whereby people of an ethnic minority believe that they either will not get the job due to them being in that ethnic minority, or will be subject to abuse at work if they were offered the job. The adverts aim to dispel that; they have no bearing on who actually gets the job once all applications have been received.
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By Dr. Nick
#237065
Lucie wrote:
Furious wrote:Its do gooders like you who are responsible for the state this country is in. I bet you donate to your local Assylum seekers charity dont you.


You're clearly incredibly closed minded and stupid then. You're obviously only concerned with preserving your own little comfort zone and not helping anyone else get a better deal.


He's actually a troll of the worst kind. He has seems to have multiple aliases. Don't bother responding to any of his posts if they're inflammatory, he's just trying to wind you up. He's already had one warning.
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By Furious
#237083
Dr. Nick wrote:He's actually a troll of the worst kind. He has seems to have multiple aliases. Don't bother responding to any of his posts if they're inflammatory, he's just trying to wind you up. He's already had one warning.


You are truely mistaken old chap. I've had no warning, nor do I have multiple aliases. Ask console to check ips.
By MunroeForbes
#237084
Furious wrote:
Dr. Nick wrote:He's actually a troll of the worst kind. He has seems to have multiple aliases. Don't bother responding to any of his posts if they're inflammatory, he's just trying to wind you up. He's already had one warning.


You are truely mistaken old chap. I've had no warning, nor do I have multiple aliases. Ask console to check ips.


Ignore him Furious, he is a racist of the worst kind.
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By Furious
#237086
Lucie wrote:
Furious wrote:Its do gooders like you who are responsible for the state this country is in. I bet you donate to your local Assylum seekers charity dont you.


You're clearly incredibly closed minded and stupid then. You're obviously only concerned with preserving your own little comfort zone and not helping anyone else get a better deal.


Absolutely. Why let them create civil unrest and increase crime when:-

a. We dont have the police resources to deal with them.
b. We dont have the medical resources to deal with them.
c. The legal system is to afraid of infringing on thier human rights, so they get away with murder, literally.
d. They cost us the "British tax payer" money.
e. They are uninvited.
f. They go through the bins out the front of my house on a wednesday and threaten you when you tell them to f**k off.
g. They smell.
h. They ruined their own country.
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By DemonHorse
#237088
You also cost the british taxpayer money so don't pull that bulls*it on us....
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By Furious
#237089
DemonHorse wrote:You also cost the british taxpayer money so don't pull that bulls*it on us....


lmao. Of course I do, I'm a jobless pikey. How much do you earn on a yearly basis matey?
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By Lucie
#237090
Furious wrote:Absolutely. Why let them create civil unrest and increase crime when:-

a. We dont have the police resources to deal with them.
b. We dont have the medical resources to deal with them.
c. The legal system is to afraid of infringing on thier human rights, so they get away with murder, literally.
d. They cost us the "British tax payer" money.
e. They are uninvited.
f. They go through the bins out the front of my house on a wednesday and threaten you when you tell them to f**k off.
g. They smell.
h. They ruined their own country.


Haha ok I'm sorry I feel stupid now :P. I think I was having a bad day so I just let someone playing devils advocate get to me. Must be quite amusing for you, but seriously it's been done a thousand times before.
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By Furious
#237095
Lucie wrote:Must be quite amusing for you,


Highly.
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By Sidders
#237338
Topher wrote:I personally think the adverts for ethnic minorities are in order to encourage more people of those cultures to apply. Some jobs have a stigma attached whereby people of an ethnic minority believe that they either will not get the job due to them being in that ethnic minority, or will be subject to abuse at work if they were offered the job. The adverts aim to dispel that; they have no bearing on who actually gets the job once all applications have been received.

That is exactly right Topher.
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By Furious
#237360
So if I were to advertise a job in a predomenantly black environment and say that were looking for white males in particular, there wouldn't be a problem with that? You can bet your bottom dollar that someone from an ethnic institution would take offence and throw in accusations of racism.
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By fish heads
#237363
Someone could throw in an accusation of racism (most people do at every little thing these days) but it would depend entirely on the circumstances surrounding the case. You can't just generalise in cases like that and say "is this racism" as the world doesn't work on generalisations
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By Furious
#237365
It generally does.
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By fish heads
#237367
Intentional irony there?
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By Furious
#237368
;)

I'm bored with this topic now.

Its sunny here.
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By Sidders
#237371
Furious wrote:So if I were to advertise a job in a predomenantly black environment and say that were looking for white males in particular, there wouldn't be a problem with that? You can bet your bottom dollar that someone from an ethnic institution would take offence and throw in accusations of racism.

That is a hypothetical situation that would almost certainly never occur.
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By Adam
#237389
Please, lock this topic. It's about to make me cry.
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By fish heads
#237411
In which case, please keep it open!

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